Re: [-empyre-] nettime and alan, mez, nn.

["tobias c. van Veen" <tobias@techno.ca>]

dear G,

Yet, _Dark Fiber_ (2002), which is extensively made up of such
"communications" (?), is constructed as a published book via MIT?

And throughout _Dark Fiber_, various chapters that were originally nettime
posts are footnoted as such, for example, "Language? No Problem," nettime,
January 5, 1997, on page 128.

This would seem to create a rather direct material as well as conceptual
connection between traditional venues of academic publishing and mailing
lists from which same content has been harvested / reclaimed.

And of course the fact that nettime in the past has organised print
publications (the _readers_) based on such postings. This lends a weight and
gravity to what is written there--as it might later be quoted and excerpted
from (as you yourself do) in a critical, historical or argumentative manner
by others who are apparently "really publishing," ie, with that real stuff,
paper -- ;)

I wouldn't call jim's comment "immature" given these circumstances ..

It's kind of curious to see you write this here.

best,

    tV


> On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 07:38, Jim Andrews wrote:
> 
>> why do you think you're getting no reply from nettime and why do you think
>> they're not publishing you at all anymore?
> 
> andreas has already answered this mail extensively.
> 
> but one thing stroke me in jim's immature understanding of list culture.
> jim, lists are not 'publishing' postings... be they moderated or not,
> lists are not a publishing tool. they are, perhaps, a tool for
> communication and are really different from websites, weblogs, online
> journals in which one can indeed 'publish' (if you wanna use that old
> media phrase in the first place).
> 
> geert
> 
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